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Saturday, 21 December 2013

Partnerships and participatory knowledge-building

 

Subject: [IKD] Partnerships and participatory knowledge-building

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:38:23 -0400 (EDT)

From: avongalis@general.monash.edu.au (Athena Vongalis)

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

 

I read about the World Bank's involvement in education in Russia with

interest especially since , according to Panos letter, the world bank

refrained from commenting upon education. Why is that?  It begs the

question.

 

Human capital theories which determine the value of knowledge have

isolated literacy as an international comparison vehicle to assess the

economic propensity of a nation.  How is the world bank involved in the

auditing procedures numeracy and literacy? Are they determining guide

lines?  Human capital theorists claim that there are three aspects which

determine human capital value,

1.knowledge for the creation and manipulation of tools and machines.

2.knowledge embodied in the individuals as knowledge carriers

3.non embodied knowledge such as books, research, etc

 

If any institution is serious about improving the standard of living then

it must address all of the above.

 

Athena Vongalis

Monash University

 

Subject: [IKD] Response to Tatyana Soubbotina

Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:42:51 -0400 (EDT)

From: Reinald.Doebel@t-online.de,Reinald.Doebel@t-online.de (Reinald Döbel)

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

 

Tatyana Soubbotina gave a very interesting example of >cross-cultural

interaction in "hammering out" the vision of development<, noting the

necessity for GENUINE collaboration, and for "reaching out" not only to

a wider audience, but also to an audience consisting of people who are

"open to new ideas" - and can therefore use the new ideas to build

"local capacity".

What I found new and stimulating in this message was its ending: >I am

looking forward to getting your advice<. I found this refreshing because

the tone of the message made be believe this was a genuine expression of

concern about the limitations of the project - despite its innovative

and collaborative (participatory) approach.

 

It seems to me that this is an attitude without which "sustainable

development" will remain the focal point for a collection of illusions -

as Mr. Lubbers has pointed out. Because without this very old-fashioned

"humility" one cannot be as self-critical as Anil Gupta has wanted us to

be. And without humility and self-criticism one cannot be "open" to

either arguments, knowledge, or visions of other people. Without these

"personal ingredients" there can therefore be no truly collaborative /

participatory "hammering out" of "visions".

 

My own experiences in Malaysia and Zambia point out that it cannot even

be a question of "hammering out": truly collaborative visions develop

cooperatively and quietly. And: they develop in privacy and direct human

contact. And: they serve as "motivating energies" only if - and

precisely because - they are more encompassing than any simple

formulation in language can capture (so much for the necessary

limitations imposed by any electronic discussion).

 

If I attempt some self-critical reflection: I do not think I could have

learned this lesson had I stayed at home. I learned this lesson from

those about whose "indigenous knowledge" we have been discussing these

past few weeks. And it seems to me that the reason for this is the

development of personality of those I encountered.

 

The absence of a conscious acknowledgement of the existence - not to

talk about the necessity - of "personal development" is the most

disturbing point about this otherwise very stimulating discussion (which

as spawned off some even more interesting private discussions). The more

so, as private discussions with development professionals in Malaysia

and Zambia revealed that a considerable number of them learnt similar

lessons of personal development - and as a result experienced a kind of

shock any time they arrived "back home" in "developed countries".

 

It seems to me that the focus on "models", "concepts", and "concrete

examples" has led a number of participants to consider such personal

experiences as irrelevant - especially in the context of looking for

solutions about how institutions could work more efficiently, more

collaboratively, more respectful of indigenous knowledge etc. Could it

be that there is a "cultural" bias which makes us blind to the obvious

fact that any model, any bit of information, any defition, any concept

needs to be given concrete (i.e. "applicable" or "action-orienting")

meaning by individuals - whatever their position in whatever

institution?

 

Reinald Doebel

 

Subject: [IKD] Response to Doebel's comments on "personal development"

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:39:36 -0500

From: "Elisabeth A. Graffy" <egraffy@usgs.gov>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: <ikd@jazz.worldbank.org>

 

Doebel's most recent comments sharpen the focus on a question that has been

lurking at the periphery of our larger discussion: do we need to be more

conscious of the distinct but interlocking spheres of development that

include the personal, the interpersonal, neighborhood, community, .......,

bilateral, and global. In other words, does it make sense for us to act

specifically in terms of each sphere rather than lump it all together?

Several entries to the dialogue here have pointed out the importance of

personal transformation as a motivation for larger social transformation.

Yet acknowledging the importance of personal development does not diminish

the legitimacy of community-based, nation-based or even global-based efforts

toward greater sustainability. The real dilemma seems to be that, if all of

these are legitimate, we need ways to deal with each sphere effectively: it

seems clear that, though the personal and public spheres are connected, the

way we approach them will likely not be the same. Where I'm going with this

is: when we consider the role of international organizations in development,

does it turn out that their "niche" resides in in working at one or more

specific spheres? Can we expect the World Bank to effectively or mainly

promote personal development? Or is it institutionally better-suited to

working within other spheres?

 

As an analogy, in the field of conflict resolution, there is a theory or

approach known as "multi-track diplomacy." The idea is that conflicts exist

and are resolved at many different levels (I think the theory recognizes

about 5 tracks, including global, bilateral, business, community, etc.) and,

though international negotiators get the most press, some of the most

critical aspects of conflict resolution occur in the relationships forged at

the community level. So the organization deliberately specializes in working

at the "track" where it can make the greatest difference. They leave the

state department and UN to work out that the government-to-government stuff

and they themselves work within communities. They've invested themselves in

dialogues between Israeli-Palestinians, Cypriots, and other places. Is there

good cause for us to disaggregate that "development" word into something

like these "tracks"? Does it help clarify where different participants in

sustainable development can be most effective?

 

Subject: [IKD] Re: Development Project Knowledge Network

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:09:46 -0500

From: "Elisabeth A. Graffy" <egraffy@usgs.gov>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: <ikd@jazz.worldbank.org>

 

The risks involved in organization-mediated knowledge acquisition are

undoubtedly as Sean Siochru suggests. The alternative--project-to-project

sharing of information and knowlege--is attractive. Based on my own

organizational experiences with projects that are geographically fragmented,

use of internet and similar information technologies can only take you so

far in sharing knowledge. There does not seem to be a real replacement for

interpersonal knowledge exchange and insight-building. But there does seem

to be a need for innovation about how that interpersonal exchange takes

place. So, on top of effective linkage through information technologies, I

would add a layer of deliberate "people-brokered" exchange. Specifically,

develop a team of knowledge-brokers within the organization itself.  In

effect, these people would be interpreters and facilitators of

knowledge-sharing among projects.

 

Elisabeth A. Graffy (egraffy@usgs.gov)

 

Subject: [IKD] WHAT IS NEXT?

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:42:02 -0500

From: Alfonso Gumucio Dagron <agumucio@guate.net>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: "'ikd@jazz.worldbank.org'" <ikd@jazz.worldbank.org>

CC: "'James Deane'" <panos@gn.apc.org>,

     "'James Deane (PANOS)'"

     <jamesd@panoslondon.org.uk>

 

James Deane makes several good points about the World Bank's new attitude

to listen better and willingness to support further discussions on

development topics as the IKD. He also points that participation from

World Bank in the IKD debate was very small, I would add very

frustratingly short-coming compared to our expectations.  Does it mean

that only very few individuals in the World Bank are willing to make the

obviously necessary changes in the organization.

 

At the closing of this debate some ideas have been thrown over the

cyber-table in order to ensure some continuity to the discussion. It is

always good to close with some opening for the future, but I'm afraid

that if the only perspective is to have another debate, we may enter in

the field of Dyanetics, just pampering ourselves in cyberspace and not

taking actions in "meat space". It is too comfortable to have this

dialogue from our chairs, watching a screen full of characters and not

knowing the faces that are behind the messages. By looking forward to

more discussions, aren't we just postponing real changes while feeling

at the same time very nicely about ourselves?

 

You can't make decisions in cyberspace, only make suggestions. But if

the World bank really wants to move forward, they should organize a real,

not a virtual, meeting where decisions can be made and put on paper,

and be acted upon. How else can our recommendations be seriously taken

into consideration?

 

Some have suggested as next steps to gather more information, a

knowledge bank, etc. It seems to me that those are interesting

initiatives, but they remain very intellectual exercises. Where is

action? When are the changes coming? For example, if we agree that

information and communication at the community level are so important

for social development, how can we make the World Bank and other

international agencies to allocate 2% or 3% of the budget of every

single project to communication and information activities at the

community level?  I tell you -from my twenty and more years of work at

the community level in various continents- THAT could start changing

things.

 

Overall the debate was interesting, but I'm not looking forward to spend

the next years reading or writing similar things, in similar academic

debates, just sitting in front of this screen. There is too much to do

out there in the real world.

Thanks,

Alfonso Gumucio

 

Subject: [IKD] Re: Implications for international institutions; reply to Paul Mundy

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:40:59 -0400 (EDT)

From: "Prof. Anil Gupta" <anilg@iimahd.ernet.in>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

Organization: Indian Institute of Management

To: Paul Mundy <paulmundy@netcologne.de>

CC: IKD conference <ikd@jazz.worldbank.org>,

     Michel Loots <mloots@globalprojects.org>,

     Guus van Liebenstein CIRAN <lieb@nuffic.nl>

 

I appreciate the posting  by Paul.

 

I have following comments:

 

a) the funds for extension that is transferring knowledge of scientists

to farmers are actually not limiting in Asian context. If any thing, my

feeling is that these funds are disproportinately larger than the funds

for doing the opposite that is listening to the farmers( not that only

funds will make it happen) .

 

To give an example, we have more than 9000 examples of contemporary

innovations or outstanding examples of traditional local knowledge (

colelcted over alst ten years from more than 3300 villages) in the field

of sustainble technologies at grassroots. Despite best possible linkages

we could have with top level scientists, how many experiments we could

get done on these ideas at ICAR or other state  agri-universities labs

or farms( notwithstanding huge World bank funds to these institutions

under NATP and other programes) ? Hardly any.

 

b)      Not only that we have failed to get research done at national

reserach stations, international CG centres have not done any better (

say ICRISAT or any other).  CIAT is exception under J Ashby. At least an

attempt is being made there to reorient the Cg research to some extent.

 

c)      I agree that rather than starting new attempts, we should

strenghthen

what exists. The reasons are simple. Knowledge Networks can not be

formed by money. These require spirit, trust and mutual respect. All of

these take time to evolve. But when interanAtionAl organizations try to

blur the difference between Knowledge and wisdom, people's science and

formal science, technology and its institutional context, disasters

follow.

 

d) when we showed Multi-media multi language Honey Bee data base on

local innovations at Global Knowledge conference at Toronto in 1997, our

was the only product of its kind. It still is. So much is being said

about ICT applications in rural development, a meeting organised by my

colleague Prof Bhatnagar  and Robert Schwire of WB, at IIMA collated

various experiments in this field in India. Our data base  was still the

only example of its kind. It helped overcome barriers of language,

lietracy, and localism. Farmers and artisans could learn from innovators

any where, in their own langauige and without having to know reading and

writing by seeing pictures, films about the innovation and sound of the

narative in their own language. Have we scaled it up as yet. No, we

might do so in due course.

 

e)      We had as a member of the Coalition against Hunger and Poverty

organised by IFAD and joined by WB, FAO and many other international

orgnaizations, NGOs, etc.,, proposed a Knowledge Network on sustainable

technologies and institutions. The coalition failed to do anything on

that though we on our own launched it at International Conference on

Creativity and Innovation at Grassroots, Jan 11-14, 1997 at IIMA.

 

We share the sustainable solutions with local communities and

individuals around the world through Honey bee news letter( how many on

this list subscribe to it, though it goes to over 75 countries).

 

What I am trying to say is that there is no dearth of good ideas and

initiatievs in third world on the subject under discussion on this list.

What is missing is the modesty to acknowledge that new intiatives may

come from knowledge rich economically poor people ( not the `resource

poor' people -- a term world bank popularised with very unfortunate

consequences, as if knowledge is not a resource, or poor people are poor

even in this resource).

 

I hope some rethinking will take place, some day. In the meanwhile, the

creativity of people will continue to throw surprises at all of us.

 

I wish you all the best and I am sorry taht I have not been able to

spend as much time as I should probably have on the list. May be I am

not convinced that WB is really serious about becoming a KNowledge

Organization.

 

anil

 

Prof Anil K Gupta

Professor, Indian Institute of Management

Ahmedabad 380015, India

and

Coordinator SRISTI and Editor, Honey Bee

anilg@iimahd.ernet.in

http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~anilg/

http://csf.colorado.edu/sristi/

 

fax 91 79 6427896, 6423341

phone (o) 91 79 6407241

 

Subject: [IKD] Re: Implications for International Inst

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:27:33 -0400 (EDT)

From: Zane Ma Rhea <z.marhea@cshe.unimelb.edu.au>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

 

In response to this week's discussion....

 

We already have 'knowledge banks' (or as I would prefer 'storehouses of

ideas' as a more reflective metaphor!) called universities.  The problem

seems to me to be that the extensive system of production, reproduction,

dissemination and legitimation of ideas that has gone on in these places

has hitherto been far more concerned with the 'international' transfer of

ideas (centre to periphery model) than with the preservation of local

knowledges, with academics being accountable to local communities about

what is regarded as legitimate knowledge.  Universities have a complicated

history and I don't want to imply that they have been useful up til now

with this problem, but many universities were established as a symbol of

local identity.  It has often been the case that they were too effective in

putting forward local aspirations that directly competed with global

capitalism and the globally-available funding for many universities in

so-called developing countries has been intrinsically tied to western

demands.  Recent policies by some global funding bodies have abandoned the

on-going development of local universities in favour of 'basic literacy'.

Not surprisingly, this has coincided with people's demands that 'their'

university be more responsive to the needs of the local community and more

vocal in opposition to westernisation.

 

Over the past 20 years there has been a slow recognition of the need for

universities to be both locally and globally aware and there is a loose

network of academics in a diversity of localities around the world who are

patiently working to such ends.  Getting a balance between local and global

knowledge within local universities has the potential to bring

indigenous/local knowledges into these storehouses and I know of a number

of successful ventures in this direction.  For those interested in such an

approach you could contact me directly on z.marhea@cshe.unimelb.edu.au or

Bob Teasdale through the webpage

http://wwwed.sturt.flinders.edu.au/edweb/fuiie/fuiie.htm.  And keep a look

out for our book 'Local Knowledge and Wisdom in Higher Education'

(Pergamon/ Elsevier) due out later this year.

 

Simply focussing on 'development' is a never-ending debate and discussions

about global institutions cannot avoid questions of power and legitimation

of some ideas over others.  A move towards encouraging academics and their

students in universities to be BOTH locally and globally useful is an idea

that is more in the spirit of power-sharing than many others.  By

strengthening local speaking positions the global discussion of course

becomes more contested, but through this sort of process I am seeing

evidence of a preservation of a diversity of solutions to global problems,

and that, to me, is a wise idea!

 

Regards to you all out there and thank you to all the other participants

for sharing their ideas!

 

Zane

 

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                                Dr Zane Ma Rhea

 

                                 Research Fellow

 

                    Centre for the Study of Higher Education

                            University of Melbourne

                       Parkville 3052 Victoria Australia

 

                            Phone: +61 3 93447577

                        Facsimile: +61 3 9344 7576

 

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Subject: [IKD] Response to Elisabeth Graffy re: "personal development"

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:19:00 -0400 (EDT)

From: Kevin Lyonette <lyonette@bluewin.ch>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

Organization: SDS

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

 

Another posting of real importance from Elisabeth.  It certainly DOES

make sense for participants to clarify where their effective "track" or

input can best be used.  We have heard and read a lot about "modesty" in

setting goals - no one group of whatever kind has THE answer, that much

is obvious.

 

What does this mean ?  It means keeping an overall, integrated view of

the purpose and nature of "development" while identifying in a

collaborative and realistic manner where and from whom the best inputs

can be made.  It means recognizing imperatives of scale of action,

ownership and ultimate interdependence - not the imperative of "s/he who

has the gold makes the rules". It means accepting that a lot of people

are valid stakeholders in development and that there are many relevant

and valid types and sources of knowledge and information. As we have

learned recently in Central America, there are "trade-offs" (not only in

the economic sphere) to be identified and dealt with in advance of

action if development action is to be successful in the long term ie.,

sustainable.

 

--

K.J.Lyonette, SDS

1a Sentier des Morettes

1197 Prangins, Switzerland

Tel +4122 361 9739, fax +4122 361 8164

 

Subject: Re: [IKD] WHAT IS NEXT?

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:15:53 -0600

From: Martha Gorman <marthagorman@worldnet.att.net>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

CC: "'James Deane'" <panos@gn.apc.org>,

     "'James Deane (PANOS)'" <jamesd@panoslondon.org.uk>

 

A great many good ideas have been bandied about over the course of this

interesting debate. One suggested by Alfonso Gumucio Dagron is feasible and,

in fact, already under consideration in both the World Bank and, to a lesser

extent, at the IDB.

 

Alfonso said "...how can we make the World Bank and other international

agencies to allocate 2% or 3% of the budget of every single project to

communication and information activities at the community level?  I tell you

-from my twenty and more years of work at the community level in various

continents- THAT could start changing things."

 

We have spent the past two years developing the tools and the process needed

to make this concept a reality. In the process we have founded the

International Institute for InfoStructure and developed the "Information and

Communications Technology Assessment Process." This business-objectives

based

assessment process analyzes the ICT of development project host

organizations

to determine whether the organization's "infostructure" is sufficient to

develop the project efficiently and meet the organization's business goals,

since a failing organization is unlikely to be able to carry out a

development project successfully. Three types of expertise are needed to

achieve an objective, accurate assessment: business analysis, systems

analysis, and a site/industry specialist.

 

One of the products of the Assessment Process is a procurement

recommendation, should ICT enhancements be required to ensure the success of

the project. This will be built into the procurement process of the project

itself, and some small percentage (we estimate in most cases less than 3%)

of

the development project will be spent to enhance the ICT of the host

organization. This is much more efficient than creating/approving, etc. a

whole new project.

 

Think about it. If this Assessment Process were routinely performed for all

development projects during the pre-development phase (in a standardized,

SOP

manner, somewhat like an environmental impact study, except that the result

is action that leads to a greater probability of success, rather than to

recommendations on whether to proceed or not), we could significantly and

systematically accelerate the enhancement of the information and

communications infrastructure of the developing world.

 

There are, of course, benefits for the Banks, as well. A more objective

procurement process for ICTs would result (less vendor driven), as would a

greater degree of transparency over the life of the project.

 

Most importantly, of course, is that, instead of just producing

infrastructure, development projects would also be producing the

corresponding infostructure.

 

We realize that the validity of the Assesment Process depends to a great

extent on the quality of the Assessors. It is for this reason that we have

created the Institute. We wish to train individuals (especially those from

developing nations) with IT and business expertise to implement this

process,

and of course, every Assessment would involve a "site specialist" ie, a key

person from the host organization, to provide business objectives data, as

well as the necessary reality check. It would not do for outsiders to come

in

for a week or two and then hand down a prescription from on high -- the

Process involves host organization input, involvement and approval at every

stage.

 

A proposal to test the Process in the field is currently under consideration

by infoDev, and the World Bank procurement department has requested a copy

for review. Meetings have taken place with BID executives, and a further

discussion is being scheduled.

 

Are we dreaming? Or has the time come to give equal priority to

infostructure

as that given infrastructure?

 

We welcome feedback and suggestions.

 

Martha Gorman, Director

Institute for International InfoStructure

303 494 4488

303 494 4787 fax

marthagorman@worldnet.att.net

 

Subject: Re: [IKD] Response to Elisabeth Graffy

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:51:54 +0200

From: "Paul Mundy" <paulmundy@netcologne.de>

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: <ikd@jazz.worldbank.org>

 

Interesting thoughts (again) on division of labour from Elisabeth Graffy.

 

It does seem logical that different development institutions should take on

different tasks and become specialized in different things. Firms do it,

government departments do it, individuals practising their professions do

it. So too do development organizations.

 

It might seem ironic, then, that much of the criticism directed at the World

Bank and other international institutions can be summarized as "they aren't

enough like..." NGOs, private firms, or whatever. The Bank "doesn't listen

to its clients--the poor" (like NGOs are good at), it "funds big, poorly

thought-out projects" (suicide for a commercial bank), and so on.

 

Similarly, the CGIAR (international agricultural research centres) "don't do

enough field-based research", are "too 'upstream' in their research", and so

forth -- we often hear that they should be more applied, closer to

farmers... more like NGOs.

 

Much of such criticism may be valid, and international institutions surely

have much to learn (as do NGOs and the like). But the international

institutions do have a role to play. It would make little sense if they were

to just take over the niches already filled by NGOs or by commercial banks.

 

At the same time, we are undergoing a time of great institutional flux. For

better or worse, governments are privatizing parastatals and services.

Private investment in (certain) developing countries has dwarfed bilateral

and multilateral funding. There is a huge increase in the numbers and

breadth of activity of NGOs, and governments are beginning to work with

them. Large international NGOs and consortia of universities are behaving

more like consulting firms, chasing big funding and big projects. There is a

new focus on the "client" or "customer" in both development work and in

private business.

 

Some conclusions flow from this line of reasoning:

 

1.    There is no one "right" answer. It is necessary to design

institutional and methodological solutions for each situation, and those

solutions must be flexible to deal with a changing economic and

institutional environment. Development institutions themselves must be

flexible, continually monitoring their environment to ensure that they are

optimally positioned (in terms of funding, impact, etc.).

 

2.    At the same time, there is great opportunity for learning, copying and

adapting approaches. NGOs are often at the "cutting edge" of development

approaches: they are relatively small and nimble, and there are lots of

them. It's possible in a small project to take risks and try out new ideas;

doing so in a major project is far more difficult. NGOs can thus be seen as

laboratories for development, continually testing new ideas, and passing on

their lessons to the development mainstream. The mainstream needs ways of

monitoring these activities and adopting or adapting them. A recent example

of this happening has been in participatory rural appraisal (PRA), which has

in a very short time been transformed from a fringe approach to (almost)

standard practice.

 

3.    Multiplicity and competition in development approaches are good. If

there were just one, huge development organization in the world, changes in

approach would surely come slowly. But lots of development organizations,

all competing for funds, ideas and talent, and each using different

approaches to development, keep everyone on their toes. The system ain't

perfect, but it's surely better than many alternatives.

 

4.    There's a danger in competition though: institutional barriers are

built up because one player (NGO, consultancy firm, or whatever) doesn't

want to share its knowledge with potential competitors, or even with

partners. Witness the walls between agricultural research centres and

extension institutions: here are two types of institution that should work

closely together to serve farmers, but in fact seldom communicate

effectively.

 

5.    Communication and collaboration are good. Ways need to be found to

ensure that such knowledge is shared to the ultimate benefit of the poor.

Perhaps there's an analogy with the scientific community here: scientists

compete with one another to be the first to announce a discovery, but they

still have the ethic of freely sharing the results of their research through

publication. That's because the reward system for scientists is based on the

quantity and quality of publications produced... Perhaps a similar reward

system could encourage development organizations to be more forthcoming

about sharing their knowledge?

 

Finally, let me add a word of thanks to the organizers of this email

conference: it's been a valuable opportunity to learn from others, and

perhaps also to influence in some small way how development is done.

 

Paul Mundy

development communication specialist

paulmundy@netcologne.de

http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-mundypa

tel +49-2202-932 921, fax +49-2202-932 922

 

DevArt: artwork for development

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1003/

 

Subject: [IKD] Re: Action in the Real World - Response to Alfonso Gumucio

Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:43:40 -0700

From: Reinald.Doebel@t-online.de (Reinald Döbel)

Reply-To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

To: ikd@jazz.worldbank.org

 

Alfonso Gumucio Dagron talked about "ideas thrown over the cyber-table"

as opposed to "action in the real world". While I do share his concern

about the relationship between the two, I can still see some use for the

cyber-table: if the ideas thrown over this virtual table reach further

than just the thinking capacity of the recipients. If they reach what

E.F. Schumaker has called "our heart of hearts" (in a speech to an

international conference on Sept. 3rd, 1977, published in "Small is

Possible" by George Mc Robie) - and if they contribute to making this

the centre for decisions concerning action in the real world.

 

As this may seem very abstract (and therefore academic) again, let me

talk about my "real-life" experience that "networking" takes place

between people who have made similar decisions in their "heart of

hearts". Only then does real life co-operation become really

"productive": because the mutual recognition of the "right attitude"

does give additional "energy" to those who are able to "link" in this

way - energies of "enthusiasm", of "creativity", of "intuition", or

whatever you want to call it.

 

In "academic parlance" this is called "synergy effect" - but the

relevance of this effect in increasingly acknowledged in "new story

management" (see Charles Garfield, "Second to None - the Productive

Power of Putting People First"). The point I want to submit to

everyone's personal experiental testing here is: stripped to the

essential, it is a question of people doing what they feel is "right" -

in their "heart of hearts". And of recognizing those people who do the

same and then joining forces - i.e. "collaborate", "co-operate",

"network", "link" with them. Productively, towards a shared goal, and in

an atmosphere where mutual respect and mutual sympathy are not the goal

but an important "energizing" ingredient.

 

This calls for direct personal contact - and makes it necessary not that

figures of two or three percent are put into plans and guidelines

(though I trust Alfonso's judgement that this would change a lot of

things), but that the very people who are in a position to make the

decision about those percentages do meet those people whom this is

supposed to benefit - and establish the kind of relationship just

sketched.

 

In a book written centuries ago to advise Malay rulers ("Mahkota Segala

Raja") to become "wise rulers" one finds the story (not uncommon in

"oriental tales") of the "raja" who disguised himself as a common man

and went out at night to go to the marketplace and to eating places to

listen to people and talk to them unrecognized - just to find out what

they were really thinking. This has become more difficult in the age of

mass media: the faces of the "important people" are known to almost

everyone. But the need for this direct contact is as important as ever.

 

As Daniel Goudevaert (a rather senior Dutch manager) has acknowledged in

the following words:

"The higher you rise in the hierarchy, the more the windows turn into

mirrors. You can't look outside any more - you only see yourself. And

people can't look inside any more. And there are people who deliberately

put mirrors in the place of windows."

 

It is up to everyone's personal experience and decision-making capacity

to see this as "just another idea across the cyber-table" or as a

pointer to possibilites for action in the real world.

 

With best wishes

 

Reinald Doebel

 

 

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